Comments on: ISA, HASA, and the Inverted LMS http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/ edupunk, elearning, socialware, rhetoric, discourse analysis, instructional technology, keene nh, other stuff Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:56:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: VAPERS » Blog Archive » RSS Feed for Tags in YouTube http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-1104 VAPERS » Blog Archive » RSS Feed for Tags in YouTube Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:12:55 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-1104 [...] 2006 (and several subsequent iterations on that idea). Or Mike Caulfield’s posts here and here on the topic of [...] […] 2006 (and several subsequent iterations on that idea). Or Mike Caulfield’s posts here and here on the topic of […]

]]> By: Mike http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-53 Mike Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:51:42 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-53 Scott -- thanks, I actually found this out both thru you comment and from a link in from Stephen Downes. THis is incredibly exciting. Scott — thanks, I actually found this out both thru you comment and from a link in from Stephen Downes. THis is incredibly exciting.

]]> By: Mike Caulfield » Blog Archive » In Which We Meet Our Allies http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-40 Mike Caulfield » Blog Archive » In Which We Meet Our Allies Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:14:27 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-40 [...] (personal learning environment): Helen Barrett receives an email from Mike Caulfield describing an Inverted LMS, which turns out to be the PLE, independently discovered. More here. She also gets a note from a [...] […] (personal learning environment): Helen Barrett receives an email from Mike Caulfield describing an Inverted LMS, which turns out to be the PLE, independently discovered. More here. She also gets a note from a […]

]]> By: Pedablogy: Musings on the Art & Craft of Teaching » Blog Archive » Response to Gardner http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-34 Pedablogy: Musings on the Art & Craft of Teaching » Blog Archive » Response to Gardner Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:13:17 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-34 [...] Mike Caulfield started the thread: [O]ne of the paradoxes of HASA-based LMS systems: they follow the grain of our thought, and at the same time they profoundly fracture our experience. And the students? Well, they’re “in there” too. At least the piece of the student that belongs to that class is. You know, the English major slice. The part of the student that is a science minor is in another box, and the part of a student that is looking for a job or hanging out with friends doesn’t have a box at all. [By contrast, I]n a student-centered LMS, the student contains part of the class rather than the class containing part of the student. [...] […] Mike Caulfield started the thread: [O]ne of the paradoxes of HASA-based LMS systems: they follow the grain of our thought, and at the same time they profoundly fracture our experience. And the students? Well, they’re “in there” too. At least the piece of the student that belongs to that class is. You know, the English major slice. The part of the student that is a science minor is in another box, and the part of a student that is looking for a job or hanging out with friends doesn’t have a box at all. [By contrast, I]n a student-centered LMS, the student contains part of the class rather than the class containing part of the student. […]

]]> By: Scott Wilson http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-31 Scott Wilson Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:06:31 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-31 Hi Mike, A lot of folk in HE community have been talking about this for a while under the moniker "Personal Learning Environment", or PLE. Lots of resources here: http://del.icio.us/tag/ple -S Hi Mike,

A lot of folk in HE community have been talking about this for a while under the moniker “Personal Learning Environment”, or PLE.

Lots of resources here:

http://del.icio.us/tag/ple

-S

]]> By: Mike http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-27 Mike Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:50:10 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-27 Kate -- I'd love to know more about your project -- do you have a personal blog... (your name is linking helpfully to the conference paper abstract -- but I need to know more!) Kate —

I’d love to know more about your project — do you have a personal blog… (your name is linking helpfully to the conference paper abstract — but I need to know more!)

]]> By: Mike Caulfield » Blog Archive » Inverted LMS Revisited: The various uses of containers http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-25 Mike Caulfield » Blog Archive » Inverted LMS Revisited: The various uses of containers Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:29:44 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-25 [...] Writes has a good critique of of my Inverted LMS post, which asks a number of good [...] […] Writes has a good critique of of my Inverted LMS post, which asks a number of good […]

]]> By: Kate Quinn http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-24 Kate Quinn Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:13:29 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-24 Hi Mike, I have been working on a similar blog/elearning implementation for my Masters thesis of a blog-based learning system. My concept has an "ISA" basis: the student ISA blogger and sometimes ISA blogger on the English class blog (basically trackbacking) but everything is compiled as their single blog, as a whole person. Whether that blog is internal / external to being boxed within an institution still needs to be remedied but the idea is to keep things open, portable and belonging to the blog author (whether that be student or teacher). Cheers, Kate Hi Mike,

I have been working on a similar blog/elearning implementation for my Masters thesis of a blog-based learning system. My concept has an “ISA” basis: the student ISA blogger and sometimes ISA blogger on the English class blog (basically trackbacking) but everything is compiled as their single blog, as a whole person. Whether that blog is internal / external to being boxed within an institution still needs to be remedied but the idea is to keep things open, portable and belonging to the blog author (whether that be student or teacher).

Cheers,
Kate

]]> By: Gardner Writes » Blog Archive » No more pendulums http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-23 Gardner Writes » Blog Archive » No more pendulums Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:18:59 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-23 [...] Regarding Mike Caulfield’s latest thoughtful post: [...] […] Regarding Mike Caulfield’s latest thoughtful post: […]

]]> By: Mike Caulfield http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-19 Mike Caulfield Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:21:48 +0000 http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/07/06/isa-hasa-and-the-inverted-lms/#comment-19 Incidentally, I don't mean to minimize Elgg as a quantum leap forward as far as LMS design goes, Elgg is inverted too in a way. But I'm much more interested in these looser implementations. I also reformulated one line in the above, it now reads: "Once again, in a student-centered LMS, <strong>the student contains part of the class rather than the class containing part of the student."</strong> Maybe that's the clearest way to put it -- apart from the ISA's and HASA's. Incidentally, I don’t mean to minimize Elgg as a quantum leap forward as far as LMS design goes, Elgg is inverted too in a way. But I’m much more interested in these looser implementations.

I also reformulated one line in the above, it now reads:

“Once again, in a student-centered LMS, the student contains part of the class rather than the class containing part of the student.”

Maybe that’s the clearest way to put it — apart from the ISA’s and HASA’s.

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