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	<title>Comments on: Enterprise Learning Systems Considered Harmful to Learning</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; The Motley Management System WPMu Ed</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The Motley Management System WPMu Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Caulfield&#8217;s post &#8220;Enterprise Learning Systems Considered Harmful to Learning&#8221; reminds me of some important questions that still remain unsettled with me. Why am I such a big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Caulfield&#8217;s post &#8220;Enterprise Learning Systems Considered Harmful to Learning&#8221; reminds me of some important questions that still remain unsettled with me. Why am I such a big [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€ WPMu Ed</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€ WPMu Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bernard:

Agree totally. There are some things that due to security, scale, stability reqs, or legal issues have to be "enterprise applications".

But it should never be the default choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bernard:</p>
<p>Agree totally. There are some things that due to security, scale, stability reqs, or legal issues have to be &#8220;enterprise applications&#8221;.</p>
<p>But it should never be the default choice.</p>
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		<title>By: bernard lunn</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>bernard lunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue you describe is now not just in education. You can see the same in companies, healthcare and other places where creativity and productivity is held back by old-fashioned institutional systems. We need to figure out what are the real points of control that an institution needs and then get out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue you describe is now not just in education. You can see the same in companies, healthcare and other places where creativity and productivity is held back by old-fashioned institutional systems. We need to figure out what are the real points of control that an institution needs and then get out of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: jimgroom &#187; The Motley Management System</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>jimgroom &#187; The Motley Management System</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Caulfield&#8217;s post &#8220;Enterprise Learning Systems Considered Harmful to Learning&#8221; reminds me of some important questions that still remain unsettled with me. Why am I such a big [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Semiologic Test &#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Semiologic Test &#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Open, Connected, and Social &#187; Blog Archive &#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Open, Connected, and Social &#187; Blog Archive &#187; â€œWhat we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!â€</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Data finds data, then people find people &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Data finds data, then people find people &#171; Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an example of &#8220;the data finds the data&#8221; in my world. On June 17 I bookmarked this item from Mike Caulfield, who is a local friend, the webmaster at Keene State College, and a forward thinker about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] an example of &#8220;the data finds the data&#8221; in my world. On June 17 I bookmarked this item from Mike Caulfield, who is a local friend, the webmaster at Keene State College, and a forward thinker about [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!&#8221; at bavatuesdays</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!&#8221; at bavatuesdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Well, maybe not eternity, but certainly beyond graduation!    Mike Caulfield, my new favorite blogger, has been talking about the value of having students work with a web-based authoring platform that they can actually use after they graduate: And because the students worked with real tools (and possibly even on real problems) theyâ€™d graduate with bankable skills rather than detailed knowledge of how to use an LMS that has no analogue in the outside world. [Read entire post here.] [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Motley Management System at bavatuesdays</title>
		<link>http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/17/enterprise-learning-systems-considered-harmful-to-learning/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>The Motley Management System at bavatuesdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Caulfield&#8217;s post &#8220;Enterprise Learning Systems Considered Harmful to Learning&#8221; reminds me of some important questions that still remain unsettled with me. Why am I such a big [...]</description>
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